Rich Roll: Vegans vs. Paleo, Alcoholism & Food Addiction, and the Real Food Ultraman

 Rich Roll on The Fat-Burning Man Show

After loads of requests from you loyal listeners, we are pleased to present Mr. Rich Roll! Rich is one of Men’s Fitness Magazine’s “Top 25 Fittest Men,” a fellow top podcaster, plant-fueled endurance athlete, and the author of the best-selling “Finding Ultra.”

We speak about beating out Jillian Michaels for #1 in Health on iTunes, and I’m pleased to say we got her this week. Interestingly, I have FAR more in common with Rich’s point of view as it relates to nutrition and health (despite the fact that he’s vegan) than Jillian. You really can be happy and healthy at the same time, and tip of the hat to Rich for walking the walk.

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On to the show, today we talk with Rich about:

  • How to stick to your nutrition plan when eating out
  • What alcoholism can teach us about food addiction
  • Why we’re obsessed with bacon
  • Why Paleo people and Vegans should stop bickering
  • And tons more…

Here’s the show.

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  1. very inspiring interview. it is not really just about food, it is a whole experience. inspiring for who has some type of addiction. well done.
    about bacon… you are weird people… 🙂 mind your nitrate intake fatburningman

  2. There are more nitrates in saliva and leafy vegetables than your average serving if bacon. I still eat it infrequently because of it’s n6…I’ll leave that explanation to Kresser though…check it out.

    Anyway, I also was really impressed with the interview with Rich. Unsurprising that there would be so much common ground, really. I think he found something that worked for him to get healthy, and has admirably stuck with it. That being said, his body looks *exactly* as I expected it to. Not for me.

    • Oftentimes making the switch to a whole-foods based lifestyle is all the “cleanse” one might need. Traditional sensationalized cleanses (like the “master cleanse” or juice fasts) are generally not a great idea over a long period of time. Wouldn’t want your body potentially switching into “starvation mode” – Emily, FBM Team

  3. Great interview! Being someone who tried the vegetarian root and am now paleo I can appreciate hearing both sides of the story and I love how you don’t make it an us vs. them issue. A whole food approach whether paleo or vegan blows away the SAD and is the step this country needs to take to get out of the current health crisis. Rich’s vegan practice definitely has many parallels to paleo however a lot of vegans/vegetarians out there have very different philosophies and end up eating a lot more crap in their quest to replace food they once loved.
    Keep up the great work Abel!

  4. Thanks so much for this podcast. I have battled binge eating disorder for many years and I’ve just recently been having the mentality that is discussed in this podcast. It’s really nice to have this extra assurance that I can overcome this problem I’ve had for so long. Some people say Paleo could make an eating disorder worse, but honestly it has helped me. I totally went through the phase when I finally realized that I can make healthy foods taste really good (better recipes, more variety, less restriction of fats and meats) , and they really are replacing my cravings for crap foods.

  5. Hi Abel- I am trying to learn exactly how to kick in a fat burn but still have my couple of awesome IPA’s each day. I’m 50 and still play lacrosse am generally active but need to drop at least 20 to be faster. Any suggestions?


    • It all depends what you’re eating. There are lots of people who don’t want to give up their beer, so you have to learn to work it in! Lacrosse is great exercise.

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