Colin Stuckert: How to Counter Fragility & Take The Path of Most Resistance

Are we being mind controlled?

What’s wrong with a sterilized culture, where speaking out against the status quo gets you shadow-banned and censored across platforms?

When free speech and free expression on all sides are egregiously squashed by unelected technocratic powers with zero accountability, it’s clear someone is trying to influence or control the conversation.

That’s why it’s more important than ever to do your homework and think for yourself, especially when your health is concerned. You have to take on that responsibility.

And joining us today is the perfect guest to talk through some spicy and timely topics, our friend and fellow podcaster, writer and founder of Wild Foods, Colin Stuckert.

We need all the good people we can get to make it through this circus with our health and sanity intact. Colin is doing great work and I’m honored that our messages and businesses are so aligned.

On this show with Colin Stuckert, where we’re chatting about:

• The dangers of sterilizing culture
• What we can learn from looking to nomadic hunter-gatherer cultures
• Strategies for improving your mood that cost no money
• How to navigate difficult situations by joining together as a community
• How to counteract fragility through lifestyle
• Benefits of taking the path of most resistance 
• And tons more…

This is a spicy one, I hope you like it. Let’s go hang out with Colin.

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Colin Stuckert: Live Wild & Escape Fragility

Abel: Colin Stuckert, writer, podcaster and founder of Wild Foods. 

By understanding our evolutionary past, Colin believes we can reverse our failing health through a consciously designed lifestyle that eschews common knowledge from so-called experts. 

Colin is on a mission to save as many people as possible from the dangerous dogma promoted by bad science, big pharma, and big food. 

Colin, thanks so much for coming on the show, man.

Thanks for having me. Big fan, been following you for years.

Abel: Right on. Well, I’ve had a lot of fun catching up on your work, not only Wild Foods, you’re doing such an excellent job there, but your channels are nice and spicy, too.

Thank you.

Abel: And especially recently, the conversation has shifted a bit for the people in the health space, having experienced being muscled physically and figuratively online by being censored and shadowed-banned. 

So many of us, almost all of us now have unfortunately experienced a lot of that ramping up, not just due to the pandemic or starting with the pandemic, but actually quite a bit before that. 

So, let’s start with one of the things you were talking about on your most recent video was conformism and how a lot of people don’t realize how they’re subject to this behind-the-scenes, subconsciously, without realizing that there’s no rational thought involved in the process.

Yeah. Well, it’s this idea that we’re going to sterilize culture, or we’re going to homogenize culture.

And I made the point, that’s the best way to make a fragile society, which will then lead to crazy things.

If you look through history, every tyrant in history tries to change or audit certain things, and they try to control the narrative and the message.

And sometimes these things are on purpose, sometimes they’re an accident.

So, what I do is I actually call these things accidental conspiracies, where you have big pharma, now big tech is even involved, because a lot of the big lobbyists and politicians, the people with money, they have their hands in of all these different things, whether it’s plant-based meat, whether it’s now vaccines.

There are so many of these private incentives that we have no idea about.

And so some people are like, “Well, that’s just conspiracy, it doesn’t exist.”

But it’s like, “Wait a second.”

I can look at the investing profile of a couple of these high-profile figures, and I can show you where they have quite literally billions of dollars invested in maintaining certain messages and narratives.

Abel: Yes.

So is that a conspiracy or is it just, like I said, accidental?

It’s not like they probably sought out to make this investment so they could control the world.

Some people would have you believe that.

We’re never going to know that, because we don’t know what goes on in someone’s head.

I actually believe that most people think they’re doing good.

So, when they talk about plant-based and then climate change, and they try to connect all these things, they don’t go deep enough into the science, and they think they’re doing the right thing.

So the message gets distorted, the narrative gets distorted.

And then you have some blatant censorship, like we’ve talked about.

And things where it’s like, you don’t talk about this person or that person now. Like on Fox News, we saw George Soros becoming a thing. We can’t even talk about him.

And all these weird things that connect, that show you that we don’t have all the information.

And I think people, if they went even an inch deep, it would blow their minds.

And I get it, people don’t have time, they got to pay bills, they got to worry about all these other things.

And some of us maybe have more time to explore those options, but then we get called conspiracy theorists or we get censored or whatever.

And I don’t know. It’s really scary.

I have two sons now, and so for me, it’s like, “Do I just leave the country and mind my own business? Or do I try to help and save as many people as possible and wake as many people as possible up?”

Abel: Yeah. Well, and at least from the people I’ve talked to in a number of different countries, it seems like this isn’t something you can really outrun or run away from, at least not temporarily, not right now.

It’s going to affect everything, yeah.

Abel: And so a lot of people are in that situation where it’s like, “I want to flee,” but there’s nowhere to go. 

It’s like even the places that used to be safer—jeez, Australia, a lot of people trying to go to New Zealand or whatever, all those billionaires. I don’t know if I’d want to have a bunker over there, even if we could afford that. 

It’s one of those things that, it seems to me, we have to either take head-on, or at least acknowledge head-on, and then maneuver around in our own way through our own communities, I hope.

Which is also complicated because we are literally being prevented from getting together as communities. 

I believe we met briefly over the years, but we definitely would have hung out this year and then probably last year, we’d been able to go, not just one event, but all of these events. 

Some of my best friends, especially in the field, and I’m sure you as well. You travel all around, you see them a few times a year, pretty much year in, year out. 

This is how we create real relationships with people, not on Facebook being manipulated, not looking at butt models on Instagram, and not going on Google and being lied to.

It’s by getting together in person, looking around, and especially when we disagree, being like, “Okay, what’s the deal with that? Explain your point of view.” 

And one of the things that’s been really—and I’m sure you’ve seen it, too—in our space, especially the alternative health community, Paleo, Ancestral Health, all that, there have been a lot of things that have gone down.

Disagreements online, on social media, things taken out of context that have destroyed relationships, maybe permanently—hopefully not—that never, ever would have happened if we’d been sitting in person, eating a meal together.

I agree.

Abel: Not breaking bread, but eating organ meats or whatever.

Right, right.

Abel: And so we’re being prevented from having real relationships, our real relationships have been manipulated and destroyed, but people are still conforming and just accepting that for some reason.

Yeah. This is tribalism 101. And it’s polarization.

So our species, our ancestral past is based on, “Strangers are dangerous.”

If you didn’t know that this human was a cannibal or wanted to take your women and children or whatever, you had to basically treat every stranger as a potential threat.

And fundamentally, if somebody looks different than you, by default, it taps into that evolutionary fear that, “You’re different from me, you could be a threat, therefore I need to be extra careful.”

And I don’t even want to say racist, but tribalistic, whatever you want to call it.

These are all outcroppings of our evolutionary past.

And so the thing I get into, and I don’t necessarily want to get into race or whatever, but it’s like we’re talking about the wrong things.

We need to understand where these mechanisms come from, then we need to talk about solutions.

And not just yelling at people, calling them names and talking about the problems.

Because, to me, all that does is it stokes the fire.

It does not put the fire out. It’s not sand or water on the fire. It’s literal gasoline on the fire.

And so that’s just one example.

But the internet by design, it was supposed to be this decentralized platform that brought equity and equal opportunity to everybody.

And I’ve believed that forever. I’ve always been very pro-internet, pro-capitalism, pro-technology.

But I actually see the current version of the internet as the greatest exponential threat to humanity because the current version is controlling information.

And, basically, you go on, you’re the customer, you get a free service, you’re a customer, and then you’re sold to an advertiser.

They then manipulate you to keep you on the platform.

So they feed you things you want to believe, you like commenting on and whatever, and they try to basically suppress things that challenges what you believe.

So what this does is it creates a homogenized left versus right, us versus them, black versus white, etcetera, that it will just keep going on that way and people will be pushed further to the poles.

Which will, by all accounts, the way things are going, will probably lead to some kind of civil war.

And that even people like that, “Oh you’re just being a fear monger or whatever.”

No, I literally never paid attention to politics until 2020.

I still don’t even like paying attention to politics, but I’m just like, “Wait a second, censorship, freedom of speech. These are the things that crumble societies.”

And so, like I said, do I leave? Do I do something? I’ve really struggled with it.

I really have. And I’ve just accepted that I need to cover it and just do my best to not let it consume me too much, because like anything, the internet could consume me as much it could consume someone on the other side.

Abel: And it’s been very cool to see you and others in the space step up and take those risks.

It’s definitely a risk. Having a company, too, people could do whatever, cancel culture, the mob can come after you.

And I’ve just played those games in my head. And I’ve decided I would never apologize unless I felt like it was actually needed.

I’m not ever going to pander, but would I do that just for business purposes? I don’t know.

I’d like to think I wouldn’t, but it’s hard to know when that happens.

I don’t know. I think I’d be willing to get fired from my own company if that’s what had to happen, you know, if I had to stand by certain ideals.

And I would understand it from a business perspective to soften the blow, but then on the other side, I have my principles that I have to stand by.

Because the more people that bow to the mob, the more power that’s taken away from freedom of speech, and the more censorship and this kinda crap is going to go on.

Abel: And the more we’re all encouraged to self-censor, bite our tongues, and that is one of the—you can look at the science of this—that is one of the worst possible things for our long-term health. 

You develop serious disease through repression. 

My background is in brain science, I’m friends with a lot of psychiatrists, and we talk all the time about this sort of thing. 

And what’s happening behind the scenes, that’s not allowed to be acknowledged on media or social media or anywhere else, is so dark and so damaging that we’re going to have to take a lot of time and effort and intention to get out of this. 

And what I see is there are more and more people being dragged into the conformists, the masses, the people who are supposed to have no opinion—just do what they’re told, “Go to your job, clock in, clock out. Don’t say anything.” 

When you look back at what America stands for—and I’ve seen you take a few arrows, and I think you’ve seen me take a few, as well, for standing up for some of these things that we believe. 

Not that America is perfect, and yes, we’re two white men talking about America right now. 

I understand how damaging that can be and how scary that can be. 

But to your point as well, when you talk about race, when you talk about sexism, when you talk about all of this stuff, and that’s all you’re talking about and you’re just bickering about it, it’s making it so much worse.

And trying to impose your values onto other people, for whatever reason, seems to be only okay on social media. 

But you’re not allowed to talk about anything in person. 

You’re not actually allowed to work any of this out or express your ideas. 

So, I think the more that people right now can refuse to play that game where you’re shutting up and you’re sitting down because of your race or your gender, or your ideas, or your religion or anything else—no, don’t do that. 

Be responsible for everything you say—that’s extremely important.

We can’t just say whatever we want without responsibility, but as long as you’re standing up for your beliefs and you’re willing to, like you said, when you make a mistake, face it head on and be that example for other people. 

Then that’s how we’re going to get through this. 

The more we just shut up and do what we’re told—it’s scary, we’ve seen what that looks like, just from a health perspective. 

Looking around, we’ve both been involved in Paleo and CrossFit and stuff like that for a long time. 

It’s like these little freaks of nature, the non-conformists—although they do conform to that little world—and then these other people have gotten considerably worse.

From children to the elderly, everyone seems to be fatter, sicker, and now even more depressed and suicidal than ever. And we’ve never conformed more.

Yes. So where do you want to go from that? Because there’s a lot of different points.

It could be race, it could be health, it could be talk about cooking. Let me know what you want to cover?

Why Is History Important?

Abel: Well, you were talking about Washington and some of the things that he said about free speech.

Because even that term has now been politicized, and it’s considered conservative or alt-right or something. 

And it’s like, “No, free speech is actually a thing, and so is liberty.”

Not that the founding fathers were perfect or whatever. 

But can you explain where they were coming from when they talked about those ideas? 

Yeah, so for me, my dad was a History major, but literally until 2020, I didn’t realize how important history was.

I had always dabbled because I read a lot of biographies, and you get glimpses of history here and there. And I love Dan Carlin’s podcast, Hardcore History is amazing.

But until 2020, I’m like, “Oh my gosh, History should be an operation manual for what not to do in the future.”

That’s really what it should be.

And they’ve done research. I think it’s 1 in 10 school-aged kids, maybe middle school, high school, don’t even know what the Holocaust is.

That’s 10% of the population that’s growing up having no idea what the Holocaust is.

And then you go deeper and they don’t know how bad it was or who was targeted, or how many people died.

The numbers in our school system are just atrocious.

And guess what?

Those kids are going to grow up to be the next generation that are going to run this country.

And we actually already see the by-products of this. Look at California going bankrupt, look at New York going bankrupt.

I actually hope these states do go bankrupt because I think it’s going to be a warning sign for the rest of the country, maybe enough people will wake up to the reality that you can’t just give free stuff out all the time.

There’s always a bill to be paid, etcetera.

And then you can go into the rabbit hole, like fiat dollars, and the whole Ponzi scheme that is the financial system.

But I don’t even want to go into that today.

Abel: Yeah, maybe we’ll dabble in that a little. Because it is important and it’s involved.

It’s very important and it’s connected to everything.

It’s almost, the reason that all this exists is because we don’t have to pay the bill.

When you don’t have to pay the bill for things and you can print fake dollars, you can have so much waste happen.

And I think a lot of these outcroppings and these things that are happening—SJW culture—it’s from waste.

It’s from just extra money in the system that doesn’t belong there, extra debt, extra time people have that they maybe shouldn’t have, because they would be taking responsibility for a life.

But back to your question about George Washington, he said that, “If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”

And it’s like I’ve read that quote a few times, I’ve thought about it.

And the more I see examples of it, and the more I connect it to history, connect it to what he experienced, connect it to what’s going on now, I’m just like, “He’s so correct. He’s so correct.”

It’s going to move us to something, like I said, civil war, maybe World War III or whatever, because it’s just going to keep polarizing people.

And the more we center what we deem as, I don’t know, not correct information or false information or whatever, it just leads you more to that.

And so, when it comes to freedom of speech, the only thing that is not considered freedom of speech or protected under it is if you incite violence.

Everything else, if you want to be racist and say racist things, I mean, technically, that is considered protected under freedom of speech.

They’re trying to change the law so that’s considered hate speech, but again, it goes to your point of, “All we’re going to create is a sterile, PC-fragile culture.”

And I’ll give you an example about the race thing, but it’s connected to all of this.

I’ve been thinking about lately, what happens if you have white people in America that are afraid to give feedback to black people in America, okay?

Let’s just take the corporate level.

But what happens if you have a primarily white organization, and then you come into that organization as a black man or woman, and you want to do your job, you want to be successful, you’re pursuing the American Dream, and then everybody’s so afraid to tell you anything.

They don’t even want to say, “Well, I don’t really like that design, so can you redo it?”

They just basically accept it, then they don’t use it, throw it away, all your numbers lag, your performance reviews don’t go up because you have no valuable feedback, and then you create this glass house around you to which you, the individual, cannot grow.

And this feedback loop of going into the real world and letting the real world knock you around a bit, it happens to everybody, regardless of skin color, sex, race, religion, creed, whatever.

And if you don’t have that, if you remove that, literally, the people you’re apparently trying to protect are actually going to be worse off as a result.

You have to get feedback from the world.

And that’s why freedom of speech is literally like the number-one way to prevent tyranny and to keep some equilibrium in society.

Abel: Yeah. And freedom of speech is more of a practice than an idea. 

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It’s more about being aligned with what you want to say, what you know you stand for.

And also, even just to talk about racism a little more—not that I want to, but it feels like we have to to some degree.

I know, right? It always comes up.

Abel: Well, because they’re trying to make it a thing, more than resolve anything. 

It’s more like the 60s when there were a lot of shadowy things that were going on, people rioting. And it’s just like, “Hey, look over here, write about this.” 

But, kind of like with coddling children—if you don’t expose, like you were saying, kids and people to that full range of experience and the diversity of not just skin color, but opinion and experience, that’s what we’re really looking for. 

The more you talk about race, the more you try to get people who look a certain way based on their skin color into a college or into an organization or into a community, the more based around race all of that becomes.

And if people are afraid to ever say anything to someone who has a different skin color because they might get fired or they might go to jail because it’s hate speech, then that, to your point, is the breeding ground for racism. 

That’s how racism happens.

And polarization. Separating people. Then it’s black versus white, and you only have black companies and white companies.

That’s the whole antithesis to what they’re trying to accomplish.

But that’s literally what will be the outcome of the strategies they’re taking.

Abel: Yeah, and it’s not a new mechanism. It’s not a new strategy. 

And I know you’ve gotten deeper into some of the stuff that’s been going on in history for a long time around propaganda, around trying to make something totalitarian.

And there’s nothing better than pitting people against each other, getting them to fight amongst themselves and feeding them misinformation on both sides. 

And no one can debate that this is exactly what’s going on.

Not just from Facebook, not just from Instagram, not just from Twitter, not just from Google, but from the entire ecosystem of the internet. 

And it seems like any time there’s any viable alternative, they try to squash it as quickly as they try to squash us.

Yeah, well, if you look at Twitter or Facebook, for example, or any of these, what incentive do they have to let something like Parler, which is more of a freedom of speech platform.

Imagine if you’re trying to promote Parler on Twitter, they can just say, “Well, it’s against our guidelines,” or, “We’re protecting against hate speech,” or whatever.

And all they have to do is shadowban those tweets or whatever, so that there’s no exposure.

And that’s what these monopoly powers online have, is they have the control of information.

Sometimes they do it on purpose, sometimes they flip a switch and they’re like, “Don’t show this,” or whatever.

And sometimes the algorithms have gotten away from them and they have no idea why it’s happening, but it’s happening.

And that’s why that new documentary on Netflix, “The Social Dilemma” is something we already know.

It’s just confirmation for what I’ve been looking into for a while, but I think it will at least open up the door for people to kind of question some of it.

I don’t know if it’s going to be enough, it’s hard to say.

But really, the way I see it, there either needs to be some regulation, from a monopoly perspective, from the U.S. government against big tech—I do think that’s maybe needed—or we have to just hope these companies break down and they’re replaced with something new that’s completely decentralized.

I just don’t know what the option is. Because profit motive plus censorship plus lobbying plus investors, all these agendas that come together, there’s no way the current version of the internet can just self-regulate itself and not lead to these really bad outcomes.

That is quite literally shaping our country. Look at politics, how divisive it is.

So, I don’t know, it’s pretty scary stuff when you look even a little bit into it.

Abel: And also, there’s a big difference between what people post from their phone on social media when they’re just like on the toilet, and what they would get on a soapbox and say to a room full of real people.

Oh yes. Yep, because you don’t have physical violence at play, which is something I’ve also thought about.

Now, I’m not condoning violence.

But if you think about the hunter-gatherer perspective, we were fiercely egalitarian, which means that the evolutionary niche that humans figured out in nature was to be as equal as possible.

There was no marriage in hunter-gatherer times. Most of those examples of hunter-gatherers that had marriages or societies or some kind of hierarchy are almost always based on more modern observations of hunter-gatherers. And based on whether they live in a fixed area and they have resources to protect.

So, whenever humans have resources that they want to protect, you get hierarchy, which is basically all modern society is.

But we can go further back, in a nomadic hunter-gather where the entire tribe shared everything, voted on everything.

And if you basically did things to threaten the group status, which is like if you were too much of an iconoclast, you could have been clubbed over the back of the head or you could have been exiled, which would have also been a death sentence.

So if you think about it, it’s very contrary to human nature to really stand out and think differently.

We’re programmed through mother nature hundreds of thousands of years and even millions of years of primate evolution to work together, be equal, not having anybody too high or too low.

That’s why people attack the rich, and that’s why people look poorly on the poor.

That’s why there’s even bullying that exists to an extent.

It’s almost a way to bring people that they perceive as lower, up to a certain level so everybody can be equal.

It’s connected to everything. That’s why I love studying evolutionary psychology and biology, because you can literally see all the dumb things that humans do on a daily basis is explained by looking at biology.

But guess what? The SJWs want to cancel biology, basically.

They want to change it to basically fit their narrative, because these are “inconvenient truths.”

Abel: Right. And we’re seeing a lot of that where people are just parading around, standing for ideas without understanding what’s kind of behind these ideas. 

Which is really interesting to watch, but not so different from when I tried going vegan because I thought it was great for the environment and great for animals and all the rest of it. 

There are a lot of people who have their best intentions manipulated and kind of taken away from them. 

So then you’re just going down this path, parading these ideas without totally understanding that you’re following the narrative and you’re reinforcing it instead of actually helping the situation. 

How to Counter Fragility

But as far as fragility goes, I don’t think people have ever been more fragile. How do you counteract that through lifestyle if we can’t do it online?

That’s a good question. There’s a lot of different variables.

You’ve heard the phrase, we tend to take “the path of least resistance.”

And so I just try to sometimes think, “Okay, if there’s a path here…” Even if it’s just like, I’m parking in this parking lot, what’s the path of most resistance?

Let me park at the end of the parking lot and let me walk a little bit more.

In the airport, when I used to travel, it was the line behind the escalator, and then stairs in the middle where nobody is going.

And I don’t want to feel like I’m superior, but I look at people and I feel bad for them, that they don’t even realize they’re just following in line like sheep, and they’re not getting any movement and whatever.

“Just take the dang stairs, it’s so simple.”

And so it’s like, we have to consciously develop ways to take the path of most resistance, and we have to do things that are not always cheap, convenient and easy.

And if you take this analogy further and you have things like, obviously, exercise, you could do it too much or too little.

You can drink too much water, too little. So you’re trying to find what Aristotle called the Golden Mean.

The Golden Mean is like the Goldilocks fit. What’s perfect right in the middle?

And if you look at even something like politics, the further left you go, and further right you go, the more crazy it gets.

But the closer you get to somewhere in the middle, the closer and more likely you’re going to find truth.

And the same thing with health. And so, eat real food, cook at home.

The more you do that, the better off you’re going to be. And then exercise. Get outside everyday.

Get some sunlight, even if it’s just 20-30 minutes. It’s better. It’s literally 100% better than none.

Move as much as you can. Exercise as much as you can.

I’ve been taking walks lately where I listen to an audiobook. It’s like my new favorite thing. I feel amazing afterwards.

Obviously, with the covid stuff, vitamin D is essential. Only now are they starting to really talk about it even though we’ve known this for forever.

And it’s something as simple as creating that daily routine of a daily walk, getting outside, getting some movement, it just has so many downstream effects where your mindset will work better, you’ll sleep better, you’ll be in a better mood.

It’s just one of those things. It’s free. And most of the stuff that I recommend people do is actually free.

Like, get outside, get moving, spend time with your friends and family where you put your device away. And it’s just really as simple as that.

So we just have to make a conscious effort to build a lifestyle based on these principles of health.

The Reality of Running a Small Business

Abel: I totally agree. What about small business? Because we both have small businesses, we’ve had several over the years. 

It’s really interesting, when some people looking in on what people like us do as small entrepreneurs, they’re just like, “Oh, they’re just in it to make the money. They’re making so much money doing this stuff.” 

When in fact, you start these small businesses, you see pretty quick that the system isn’t designed for small businesses to make money at all. 

It’s very difficult to get through these different thresholds where you can afford someone on your staff. Then you have to pay taxes on your staff. 

And then you have to make sure that the sales are still coming in, and the profits are good, and all this different stuff. 

And I heard you say in one of your recent videos, where it’s just like, you’re left with scraps after paying these exorbitant amounts of taxes. 

The more you try to build jobs for other people, the more and more you’re just being taxed.

So, maybe you can just talk about that a little bit for the people who don’t know what small businesses are going through right now. 

And then we can talk about maybe how to help some of these small businesses.

Oh yeah, I’m very passionate about this.

But also frustrated, because if you look at what’s going on, we have the big corporations that have mismanaged, that get bailed out.

So we socialize the losses, right? Which again, that means we no longer have a free-market capitalistic society.

So, everyone tries to blame capitalism. We do not have free-market capitalism.

We have crony capitalism and we have crony politics, okay?

So that’s the first thing we need to establish.

And so that’s why a lot of this stuff around blaming the rich and whatever is nonsense.

It’s like, guess what? All the people that you guys are voting for are letting these corporations get in bed with politicians.

And they want to have a government take more money and then dole it around.

And they’ve never done it effectively, they never will do it effectively. So, what are you talking about?

But aside from that, the small business discussion is, it is really brutal.

With Wild Foods, it was 5 years before I could take even enough profit from the business plus my salary to make middle, I was middle class at that point.

Even though we reached the million-dollar mark a couple of years into the business.

And I still was middle class myself because I had employees, I’ve got to invest in new products, growth, inventory.

If somebody sues me, I’m on the hook for it. I got to pay lawyers.

People have no idea.

Politicians have no idea what it’s like to run a business, which is also why they’re so bad at running government.

Because if government was treated like a business, and you had profit and loss, and you couldn’t just print fake money, things would be completely different.

So, there was a tweet I saw today—the typical demonizing Jeff Bezos.

Now, Amazon’s done a lot of not so great things, but in general, it’s been a positive for humanity.

And it will be, it will continue to be.

And it won’t be perfect the whole way, but here’s a couple of things.

This is a good example that explains a lot of the absurdity when people don’t look deeper.

So, everyone talks about Amazon and Jeff Bezos not paying taxes, because for a couple of years they didn’t pay federal income tax.

Okay. Well, they have 200,000 to 300,000 employees.

Do you know how the government gets most of its revenue?

From employees, W2 employees, where the employee pays some and the business has to match it.

So we’re talking about billions in tax revenue right there. So that’s one thing.

So when you say Amazon doesn’t pay taxes, you’re wrong.

When you buy planes, automobiles, real estate, fulfillment centers, what do you pay in every single purchase that you use to invest into that economy?

Sales tax, import tax, and things that I don’t even remember.

There’s always some bill, or regulation, or state thing you have to pay for, or corporate tax.

There’s always some other thing that may be not called a tax, but it’s an expense.

And it brings money into the economy, and it flows to government, and to people, and all these different things.

So we’re talking potentially billions of dollars that Amazon has paid and does pay. Even if they were to pay zero on the federal income tax.

Because if you make a billion dollars in profit, and you plow a billion dollars back into infrastructure, most of which is in the US at this point, but they invest most of the money into the US.

You’re seeing that money going back into the economy, supporting thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in small businesses, and small suppliers, and all these different things, and you’re seeing billions of dollars in tax revenue.

So that’s just an example of people say one thing, and it becomes a narrative.

Now, everyone talks about how Jeff Bezos doesn’t pay taxes, Amazon doesn’t pay taxes. It’s quite literally 100% wrong.

It’s not even kind of right. They don’t pay one tax, and they pay a bunch of other taxes.

Abel: Yeah.

And so that’s just an example, really bad ideas.

It’s a little bit of an example of capitalism and how it works and how a tax system is set up.

The tax system wants investment, it wants growth.

And when you invest in things that grow the business, all that means is you’re going to make more taxes later.

That’s the other thing. So if you invest billions of dollars for years, what happens when you start taking a profit?

You’re making way more revenue, and you’re paying way more taxes.

So if you actually amortize it over a 20-year span, you probably would see that Amazon has been paying a billion dollars in tax or more for 25 years.

And so I’m like I see these people on Twitter, and these journalists, these independent news sources, whatever, most of them left-leaning, not all of them, but a lot of them.

And they’re just like, “Jeff Bezos, bring him down,” or AOC loves attacking the rates, “Let’s get a 50% tax or whatever.”

And it’s like, “You guys have no idea how the system works. You also have no idea of repercussions.”

If you were to tax the rich like that, they will leave the country.

And then they will create Amazon in every other country in the world where the taxes aren’t that way. And then America will crumble.

And then all the things that you hold dear like your iPhone, and Twitter, and basically public utilities at this point, will just die. They’ll just completely die.

So that’s a long answer to the question.

Abel: And that’s interesting, too, because that’s a perfect example of parading an idea around without having a full understanding of what you’re even saying by that. 

So, it’s one of those things that’s kind of true, if you mean it in that specific way, but that’s the thing with language, and especially online, all these words have different meanings now. 

And all these people are getting different ideas about what they mean.

But at the same time, after college I worked to pay off my loans, Fortune 500s and big government. 

And basically, they’re just kind of banks, but they take our money. 

And the idea though that you need to tax the rich people more is an interesting one to unpack and examine. 

Because, okay, we agree that what the government is doing is not working well. So let’s see if we can follow this…

So we should have them take more of all of our money, rich and poor, and then just do whatever they want with it still? That’s the solution?

Exactly, yep. It’s the wrong question.

The question should be, “Do we need big government or not?”

And the question should be, “How big should the government be?”

And the question should be, “What did the founding fathers have in mind?”

Limited government, which is why you had the checks and balances.

Is that working or have we just basically papered over it with new laws and amendments because the people that get in power started promising to give the voters things, and then when they got on that drip, that was the end of the republic.

And now there’s some quote I’ve seen, but it’s basically like the quote is, “The second that politicians realize that they can pay people with their own money, they can use taxes to give people things, the Republic is over.”

And that’s basically what we have. We have, in some cases, a failed state in America.

We haven’t maybe necessarily seen the repercussions of it because things get kicked down the road.

The dollars, the fiat, the $17 trillion in stimulus just in 2020.

I’ve been buying gold and silver all year, I keep telling people.

And I’ve always liked to buy gold and silver, but I never went to the extent where I’m like, “Okay, the stock market is irrational.”

This makes no sense. Things are inflating, even though there’s 30% unemployment.

I’m going to get out and just play it safe for a while. And the fake dollars they keep printing.

These things again, they’re accidental conspiracies. That’s what I want people to understand.

They’re not one evil henchmen that woke up one day and is like, “I’m going to control the world this way.”

You could maybe say that the banking families have been doing it for years because they’ve been funding both sides of conflict forever—Rothschilds, Rockefellers to an extent, you know, whatever. And those are rabbit holes you can go down.

But there are incentives in place for people to maintain the way things are and to keep perpetuating debt, fake dollars, printing of money, and then using that for political means to exert power and maintain power.

Because power always wants more power.

It needs an unending supply of power. And it never relinquishes power unless it absolutely has to.

That’s why I think the only reset that can happen in America is some kind of political reset or maybe civil war.

I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I just don’t necessarily want to be here when it does.

And I feel really… It’s the kids for me. It’s always the kids. They’re going to be stuck.

These kids are growing up, having no idea about most of this stuff, they’re being fed lies and propaganda and indoctrination.

And they’re going to basically grow up inheriting a destroyed country, basically is what’s going to happen. And it just kills me.

Abel: Yeah, well, kind of like we did, though. Growing up, looking at the generations before us, it is a fundamentally different place. 

And one thing that I am seeing, and I think it’s one of the reasons that people don’t go down these rabbit holes or they don’t do the education on themselves that they should to really understand what’s going on is, you know, for a lot of people who are in the generation that’s a bit older than us, you could do the narrative. 

You could get a job, you could work it, you could afford a house, you could afford a car, you could raise a family and the rest of it without too much trouble. 

You save some money, it’s not a big deal. You retire, you get your pensions. 

But for our generations, and certainly the generations below us, we’re looking around, it’s just like, “Okay, I’m paying into Social Security, I don’t have faith that that’s going to be there. There’s Medicare.” 

It’s like, “We haven’t been able to afford health insurance even though we’ve been working in the field of health for years.” 

It’s such this monstrous mess that we realize, “Oh, maybe we have to do something here. Maybe we have to take this on.” 

And now we’re looking at the generations coming up. 

One thing that helped me feel a little bit better was reading a few quotes and listening to a few people saying, “Yes, a lot of people who grow up in these sorts of environments will be weaker and dumber because of it, but a lot of people will be stronger because of it.” 

The antifragile type idea. And I get the impression that that’s how you’re trying to raise your kids. 

But how do you do that in this sort of environment?

Yeah, there’s a lot of variables here. And two things that are callouts from what you just said.

This makes me afraid because the trends are heading towards the bulk of the majority of the population to become more fragile.

We’re still outliers of outliers almost. We don’t even realize, because we’re swimming in it. We’re in the water that we don’t realize.

Whereas most people are in this water that we’re not in anymore, and that’s like 99% of the population.

And all the big tech and the censorship and all these things are connected to maintaining that.

That’s one of those emotions I’ve struggled with in 2020.

It’s feeling like, “Do I have to just accept that the rest of the world has lost its mind and just further going to lose its mind until there’s some kind of great reckoning?”

Or do I just come to terms with it, be stoic, where I accept what I can control, what I can’t, and come to terms with it and then do my best?

And that’s the area I’m focused on now. It’s like doing more YouTube and stuff.

But it’s still frustrating because you want to have a big enough reach, you want to see people open up more.

And it is happening a little bit. The covid stuff is waking people up a little bit.

But before this, we had 50% obesity rate.

Before this, we had about 1.75 million people, still to this day, dying from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer’s.

And basically the top 10 ways that people die in America, all of them are preventable lifestyle-related diseases, whereas one is accidental death. There’s only one on the list.

And it’s like, “Where was the outrage then?”

Were people mad and talking about how we need to ban fast food because people are killing themselves, right?

Now it’s about masks and all this false sense of security. Where that outrage was placed on that?

It’s unbelievable how much hypocrisy is built into our society and how much corporations and the politicians basically just perpetuate it.

So about the kids, it’s basically like, cell phone, kids, as long as possible. And we don’t know.

Because we have a two-year-old and a newborn recently, actually. And so I don’t know what it’s going to look like, even when they’re 10, 12, 14, 15. I don’t even know if it’s going to be cellphones.

There’s going to be some other way of plugging ourselves in.

Abel: Jacking into the matrix.

Yeah, right into the matrix or whatever. So I don’t know.

But going back to holistic, natural, getting outside, eating real food.

My son, he loves fish roe, he loves liver, he loves sardine pâté.

Abel: That’s awesome. Wow.

And he’s had some gluten-free sweet stuff here and there, but you’d think he would become crazy addicted to it and just want to eat it, but he’ll take a few bites and he’ll self-regulate.

And so really what I think parents’ job is to do the most is to remove themselves from their children’s lives as much as possible.

Now, that sounds weird saying that, but human nature and biology has way more intuition than humans of 2020 have.

So ideas like, “Scientists say you should let your babies cry it out. Scientists say that if it’s going this long in a pregnancy, you should get a C-section.”

Like all these things that since having children I’ve been forced to look at, let me just tell you and the audience, almost every single thing that is normal in American culture or western society is unnatural—literally almost every single thing.

And so some people call it taking the red pill, but I mean, circumcision, natural birth, home birth, medical system, big pharma, big food, processed food, fat is bad, carbohydrates, sugar, literally the list goes on.

Every single thing that most people think is the right way because the experts say so is based on a profit motive.

It’s sometimes based on politics, and sometimes it’s just an accidental conspiracy that has happened because a lot of complex things came together, you know.

And when you take the red pill, you realize that it’s only you to take care of your life, your health, your family, and if you delegate anything, anything, to experts, you’re taking a risk.

Even listening to us on the show, like everything that we say should never be gospel.

It should be, “Here are some ideas, let me run them through my critical thinking analysis, let me come up with a list of things that I agree with, don’t agree with, and that I’m going to do, and if I really, really want to know, let me actually read the research studies.”

Not just read the headlines or a short video, or what Colin said on a podcast or a video, read the research and then find out, was it performed well, was it bad?

Who was it funded by? Did Coca-Cola fund this research? Hmm, maybe that should raise a red flag.

And it’s like, you could do that with every single thing in your life.

And it might take a couple of years of evolution, but then you’ll have this new life that is based on this framework of biology, of truth.

Sometimes we don’t know certain things, so we’ve got to take the best path, and not based on making money or agenda, whatever.

And you can live a pretty amazing life, and by all accounts live to be 100 years old as long as you don’t accidentally kill yourself.

Abel: Yeah. Well, and it’s also interesting, looking at the stated intention of governments, the controllers. It almost always plays out to the opposite, that the result is the opposite of their stated intention. 

And that’s a dangerous place to be when there’s that much money and power and control all over the place. 

And also, when we’re supposed to have these different political systems and different leaders in different countries that are all doing exactly the same thing without any question, without consulting the people they’re ordering around. 

Same playbook.

Taking The Path of Most Resistance

Abel: It’s fascinating to watch.

But the longer that it goes on, and the more egregious it becomes, the more you have to get over that hump.

And I think a lot of the reason that people don’t is because it hurts. 

It hurts a lot to realize that you are living in the upside-down world, that you’re raising kids in schools that are upside down. 

Working with the government, I worked for the Department of Education, the Library of Congress, and the Department of Energy, and a lot of these. 

The Department of Education has no interest in educating any children anywhere is what I realized.

And that’s why I had to get out of there after working for years on really strong projects that could have gone somewhere. 

Instead they were buried because the government just wanted to take more money and the people there wanted more power and stuff.

It was very cliche, but I think the longer that people see this play out, you know, to some extent you could ignore it. And now you just can’t. 

Like, the food pyramid was wrong. Yet we were all just gobbling margarine from all of our childhoods and all this.

And even the trans fat in pretty much all the restaurant foods now, and all the foods that are out there in frialator oils, it has not made anything better. 

The stated intention to make people healthier, to eat better, to improve the environment—the opposite has happened everywhere.

So at some point you have to take that painful step, I think, to understand that we are living in this really dangerous hostile world. 

And I wasn’t raised in that world, you know. I wasn’t raised to believe that this is what we were getting into, especially when I went to an Ivy League college. 

I was not prepared for the world that was presented to me after that, with a lack of ethics, with a lack of transparency and accountability. And you think that people are going to do hard work and deliver on their promises. 

For whatever reason it seems like we need to be raising our children and the next generation in a world that is less comfy, and less safe than that.

And we should focus less on safe spaces and focus more on resiliency.

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Yeah, and something I want to just market for the whole take responsibility, red pill, wake up, whatever you want to call it—every single thing that anybody listening to this wants in their life will be improved by challenging the way it’s done now and doing something different.

Because like I said earlier, I said every single thing that is normal is not natural, pretty much across the board—it’s not optimal.

And even if it’s kind of natural, it’s probably not the best way to do it or there’s ways to optimize above it.

So you have to literally take everything—so if you want to look good naked, if you want to sleep better, perform better, if you want to make more money in your job, if you want to start a business, if you want to do all of these things and live an amazing life and travel.

When you realize that you don’t have to just become a debt slave, you don’t have to have two cars or a three-bedroom, a garage, a 30-year mortgage.

There’s so many other ways to live.

This is where the internet shines, because I can go to the Philippines right now and I could still run my company.

I could go anywhere, sit on the beach, run my company, as long as I have an internet connection.

I actually now live an hour outside of Austin, we have 10 acres, and I don’t even really have to go into Austin anymore.

And we still run it, and the whole team has become remote.

Now, I do feel for the small businesses that they can’t do that, and I think it’s absolutely disgusting what the government has done where they’re like, “Yeah, here, we’re pro-business. Invest your money and your livelihood into this brick and mortar, but then we’re going to just decide you’re not essential.” It just boils my freaking blood.

And I’ve told people like, “I’m lucky that my company has been able to kind of be okay during this time, because I would have been urged to do some vigilante-grade stuff.”

I don’t even know what it would have done to my mindset if you were taking basically my livelihood, whatever I invested in, my family’s future, and you were telling me that it’s not essential or whatever.

It seems pretty dang essential to me and my kids and my future, and all the money I invested into this thing and all the taxes I’ve been paying.

Abel: And also, “Who are you to say what’s essential and non-essential?”

Yeah, never run a business in your life and you have no idea how it actually works or what we have to go through.

It’s unbelievable.

But the marketing piece is, if you want a better life, take everything that most people do, literally anything or everything, and figure out how to do it either completely different or better. And you will literally achieve every possible dream that you could fathom.

Most people want the same things. We want security, we want to raise our kids, we want them to be healthy, we want to be healthy, we don’t want to spend a ton of money on health care, we don’t really want to spend a ton of money on food and things like that.

And there’s definitely ways you can do that when you break from the system.

But if you want to do anything exceptional, you have to realize this simple fact: If you do what most people do, you will get the same results as most people.

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It’s really as obvious as that.

You cannot think the way everyone else thinks and expect your life to be any different than those people you’re thinking like, right?

And it’s hard to do, and you might have to curate some people from your life, maybe even tell them, “I can’t see you for a while.”

People are huge environmental factors that most people don’t really realize because it’s hard.

Abel: Yeah.

But it’s like, if you’re an alcoholic or you’re struggling with drug abuse, and you’re hanging out with people that are alcoholics and drug abusers, what do you think you’re going to do?

It’s pretty freakin’ obvious.

But it’s the same way for food, lifestyle, even how you think.

If you want to think differently and do different things in your life, if you want to be an entrepreneur, yet your family’s a bunch of doctors and they think entrepreneurship is evil or something, you’re going to have to do some things differently, because you’re not going to mitigate that environmental factor without doing something consciously to mitigate it.

And so I just really want people to wake up and build lives for themselves, think differently and just flourish, really just flourish.

Abel: So for some of the small businesses and entrepreneurs out there who are listening, what have you been able to learn from the past few months and years of your experience to help them out? 

Because I’ve never seen anyone, especially small businesses having such a hard time, especially the gym owners, the restaurants, all sorts of different businesses. 

But there must be some way to adapt through this.

Yeah, it’s tough. But as it goes with anything, that is, any change can either make you more fragile, or you can be robust to it. Where you just stay the same, or you can be antifragile where it makes you better, right?

And that’s why I would recommend every business owner or really anybody, read Antifragile by Nassim Taleb, that’s the first one.

Abel: Yeah, awesome.

I would recommend reading all his books, and then trying to think about it, so, “What can I do?”

Like, “Is this an opportunity in disguise?”

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I’ll give you an example. We did have a brick and mortar in Austin.

Abel: Oh, really? 

We had a coffee shop in the front, and then we had production in the back.

I was negotiating with my landlord to renew the lease. This was literally at the end of last year.

And out of nowhere, he flipped the switch and got all mad about this thing, and he wouldn’t renew the lease with me, even though we negotiated a good deal.

And I was basically just on the phone, letting him yell at me for 10 minutes, just trying to make him calm down so we can get the deal done, and eventually it fell through.

That actually turned into really good timing because I would have been paying higher rent, double the rent for like, I mean, basically up on to this point, maybe.

Maybe we could have been open a little bit, but the government would have told me we probably couldn’t have been open for like six months, right?

And it’s like, I would have actually defaulted on that, I probably would have not paid it.

So it would have not only hurt him, but it would have hurt me, as well.

Abel: Yeah.

And so, that was an opportunity that I’m so glad it happened.

So, really, whatever your current obstacle is like as Ryan Holiday talks about, “The obstacle is the way,” things like that.

It’s like that obstacle that’s right in front of you, if you can figure out a way to turn it into an advantage or to get around it.

Or maybe ask a completely different question like, “Do I even need to do this thing or focus on the thing? Can I just sidestep?”

So many problems are actually opportunities in life.

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Almost everything in your life can be turned into an opportunity if you pull from it what you can, discard what is not useful, and then make what is your own.

I think Bruce Lee said something like that, right?

Abel: Yeah.

So you really have to just embrace technology, embrace maybe mobile training, online classes, try new things.

Do like Zoom calls and take on coaching clients for nutrition maybe, or whatever.

There’s so many things that you can do that a lot of people right now are actually building businesses based on these things that have happened, right?

And so there’s massive opportunity now, but it’s not going to be doing exactly what you did before, right?

So that’s the delineation.

Abel: One thing that’s been really helpful for us over the years is to let go of the stuff that’s not working anymore, even if it should still be working, or it was working really well before, you have to let it go. 

And, also, you have to be able to downsize sometimes, which is really one of the hardest things.

Yeah, there’s nothing wrong with that. Don’t let your ego get involved.

I used to have that when I was younger and starting businesses, like, “I want to own three businesses, I want to do this, I want a certain size.”

And then as you evolve as an entrepreneur, and you’re like, “None of that matters.”

It’s like, look at your business, what’s going on? What’s best?

And really the advice is always to stay as small as possible for any business.

If you look at big companies and raising venture capital and all of the nonsense that goes on with that, it’s just the result of having too much and not going through the trial by fire.

The trial by fire is what forges you.

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The Bible says, “Iron sharpens iron,” right?

You don’t get strong because some soft thing is banging up on you.

It’s when something really hard is banging up on you that forms you into who you’re going to be.

And you either let it break you and make you worse, like more fragile, or it makes you stronger.

Currency Devaluation & Alternatives

Abel: Yeah, yeah, I love that. We’re just about out of time. 

But before we go, maybe just a little bit more on the devaluation of the dollar, and the alternatives out there just because I really haven’t talked about it on this show, but I’m really into it.

This is a big thing behind the scenes that I’ve been into. So let’s just talk about that for a couple minutes.

Yeah, so first things first, this is not financial advice, this is literally what I’ve done, right?

So nothing I’m saying is what I recommend people do, but it is what I’ve done when I did my own research, okay?

So I’ll just give a quick allocation so we could paint a picture.

I probably took most of my money out of the stock market, I then bought about 40% to 60% of gold and silver.

So I bought more silver because it’s undervalued. And then I bought a little bit of gold, right? So both are good to have.

You can learn the pros and cons of each, I recommend everybody does.

I think silver’s probably the best for most people.

Gold is way less volatile, more stable.

So there’s pros there, so I just like to have both. Then I probably took 15% of my net worth and I put it into Bitcoin.

And I actually believe that it probably has the highest upside. So, do your research.

Abel: Yeah.

Because it’s going to be soon needed, but Bitcoin is the most risky, right? Because it has the least amount of history behind it.

And so even just a 10% or 5% exposure, having a couple could be huge.

And so I did that because, a couple things.

The Fed, which is the private bank—most people think it’s a government institution, it’s actually a private bank where most of the big banks in America are shareholders and they get paid a fixed dividend.

So they print money.

Every time they print money, they dole it out to their rich buddies, and of course, they might dole it out to investment firms in certain areas, whatever.

But generally, when they print money, the owners of the Fed benefit.

So, again, we see those incentives lined up where you could call it a conspiracy, maybe, maybe not. It just is what it is.

And we’ve had the Fed for like 70 years.

So when they created the Fed and they basically started printing money, the U.S. dollar has lost—it was either 97% or 99.7% of its value. I think it’s 97%.

Meaning $1.00 in 1915 could buy you, I don’t know, whatever it could buy you now, it’s like $100 or whatever it is.

So they’re doing this more and more, and that’s why every so often we have these boom-and-bust cycles, and they’re so bad.

So the 2009 crisis, that was so bad, and basically what most people don’t realize about the covid in 2020, is we were in a recession leading into covid.

Everybody thinks that covid caused a recession, depression, whatever, but…

And this is why some people go into the conspiracy theory of thinking that it’s connected.

I don’t know if it’s connected, but I know one thing for sure. Never let a good crisis go to waste, because every politician…

Abel: Yeah, it was inevitable. It was going to happen anyway.

Exactly, and so this is accelerated and it gave them a smoke screen to do—basically, we’re at $17 trillion in stimulus and printing.

Abel: They can’t even count to a trillion.

It’s insane.

Abel: Trillion for our human minds is so much more than we can ever fathom.

Yeah, we have no idea, we can’t comprehend it. And so what this does is it creates inflation.

When you print a bunch of money, you get inflation which means people value it less and they lose their trust in it.

And it’s been going on throughout history.

Roman emperors used to debase coinage, where they would take something that had a bunch of precious metals and they would fill it with cheap lead and copper and other things.

And when merchants and citizens caught on, they eventually were like, “I’m not taking that, you know the government has been doing that?”

And this is why every fiat dollar system collapses because you create more of it, there’s no scarcity.

Scarcity goes, the trust goes as a result, and this eventual demise. And every fiat currency in history has collapsed.

The only one that’s still going, I believe, is the British pound.

And same thing with that, it’s basically worth a fraction of what it used to be worth.

So if you hold dollars, and this is a tricky topic because you want to have dollars in case you can buy things.

But for the next five years, let’s just say you’re holding money for 5 years or holding investments, I would not just have dollars in my bank account because you’re going to lose money every single year.

And when we hit hyperinflation, it’s very likely we will, we’ll have, what’s going on in Venezuela to here, which is, an ounce of silver, it’s like 100,000, I think it’s bolivar or whatever their currency is.

It used to be like, I don’t know, 50, 100, and now it’s 100,000.

And that’s when people are going to be carting wheelbarrows of dollars around the streets.

Now, I don’t like to be too sensationalist about this stuff, but this stuff has been going on for a long time.

So we don’t know what the correction looks like, we don’t know if it’s going to be like your grass-fed beef that goes from $7 a pound to $50.

I could see that happening at some point because usually inflation hits food prices. So it’s hard to say.

At the very least, let’s say you put 10% to 15% of your net worth in some precious metals, maybe some Bitcoin, maybe have some Bitcoin just in case it skyrockets.

And then if the rest of your money collapses, it’s quite likely that small hedge—is what they call it, they call it a hedge—will make up the difference.

So at the very least, in a most obvious-case scenario, you’ll at least maintain your wealth.

What’s very likely to happen, though, because so few people own these assets and because so many people are addicted to dollars and there’s so much debt in the system, what’s likely to happen is a crazy revaluation of gold, silver and Bitcoin because there’ll be so much demand for it.

That the holders of it today will likely—we’re talking like some people will become wealthy overnight.

That might have had a little bit, a couple of thousand dollars or maybe tens of thousands—you potentially become a millionaire overnight if we revalue these things in a certain way.

I hold them for the small upside chance that can happen as a small percent of why I hold them.

I hold them mostly because I can control my finances, and the government can’t steal from me.

And this is the final thought on inflation. Inflation is attacks on the American public.

Every year dollars are worth less, 2% to 3% is the average.

This year they think we’re at 20%. Meaning a year ago if you had $100, you would have about $100 then of purchasing power. Today it’s basically $80, if we had 20% inflation.

We don’t really know what it is, because again, they don’t really know a lot of things.

Abel: And they cover it up, too. They give us just fictitious, ridiculous numbers that are not real.

Yes, yeah, and they call them these fancy names.

“The TARP Act is we’re going to save everybody,” or they’ll come up with the Freedom Act, which is just a bunch of phoney money falling around.

Abel: Yeah.

So the only way to protect yourself is to own real money, is what I call it.

So gold and silver is real money. Bitcoin, I believe. It’s the best and there’s a lot of pros going for it, but it’s still the most untested, so we don’t know what’s going to happen.

And I own each as a result, and I have throttled my numbers to represent that.

And so again, if you just owned a little bit.

I got this silver bar at my computer. I just like looking at it.

This thing is 10 ounces of solid, real physical metal that I can hold, that the government can’t take. It can’t print away or anything, and that’s why these have value because the government can’t just make it out of thin air.

And the same with Bitcoin, you just can’t make Bitcoin out of thin air.

It’s very time-intensive and energy-intensive to create it, which creates the hardness of it, and it’s really fascinating stuff, everybody should learn about this.

If you have money and you’re buying things and you live in this modern economy, maybe you should understand how the dollars work, how fiat dollars work, how precious metals work, etcetera.

I highly recommend it.

Abel: I totally agree with you. And I had a fancy expensive education, and they taught me zero about this. 

This is work you have to take on yourself.

Yep, yep.

Where to Find Colin Stuckert

Abel: Well, Colin, this has been such an awesome conversation. 

I would love to talk all day, but what’s the best place for people to find you and your work?

I’m on YouTube now, my name Colin Stuckert.

And then my new website colin.coach. I got all my articles and my podcast is the The Ancestral Mind, and everything I’m doing on YouTube and everything, and then I’m on Instagram @ColinStuckert, which you can find there as well.

And Wild Foods is my line of superfoods and supplements from small producers around the world.

Abel: Right on. We need you more than ever, Colin. Thank you so much.

We need people like you, too. You’re doing your service here, but we all got to promote these ideas more in our own time.

We all have our own temperaments.

Sometimes I seek out conflict a little bit more than others, and I totally get when people don’t want to because there’s days I don’t feel good.

There’s days where this affects me negatively, and so as somebody that’s conscious of my health, I got to make sure I don’t get too sucked into it.

So as much as I want to promote these ideas, I got to be conscious of where I’m going and how sucked in am I getting, or whatever.

And so I don’t want these ideas to cause people stress, they should be, “Well, great, I’m glad I have this information. Now I can maybe learn a little bit about it and act on it.”

Even if it’s like buying a little bit of gold or silver. You’ve now done something for your life that the government can’t control or take away from you, which I think is a very empowering feeling.

Abel: I get the impression that you get excited by ideas instead of fearful, and a lot of people are trained to be fearful of these new ideas, but maybe that fear that you’re feeling is actually a bit of excitement. 

So if you can channel it into that like us, we could geek out about this stuff all day. That’s one of the solutions to get yourself out of this. 

So anyway, Colin, thank you so much for being here.

Before You Go

Here’s a quick note that came in from Paul, he asks…

“Hey Abel, how are things?

Could you recommend a sugar-free protein powder to go with your green smoothies please?

I am now starting Wild30, and need to lose 40 pounds as fast as possible.

Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.”

– Paul

Hey, Paul, thanks for writing in to ask about this.

Very rarely do people ask how I’m doing, how are things. Things are good, man, thank you so much for checking on me.

But a sugar-free protein powder, there are more and more options out there.

One thing I would encourage you to do is stay away, as you’re doing, from the sugar-laden protein powders. It’s really easy to make a powder taste much, much better than it otherwise would if you just pump it full of all sorts of different sweeteners.

And there are lots of different names for them, so make sure that you get familiar with the different names and forms of sugar and sugar replacements. And you look at the amount of sugar on the nutrition facts to be sure that you’re getting one that’s low in sugar.

But an easy option there is just to go for a unflavored, unadulterated grass-fed pasture-raised collagen, which is a great source of protein.

But if you’re looking for something that is absolutely delicious, we’re really proud of Collagen Cocoa over at Wild Superfoods.

You can go to wildsuperfoods.com and find Collagen Cocoa there. We’re working on some recipes, we’ve got chocolate jello pudding, we’ve made gummies, brownies, and cookie options coming out.

And of course, it’s great just to drink or throw in your smoothie, as well.

So that’s Collagen Cocoa, and every purchase from Wild Superfoods helps support this show.

Right now, we’re only in the U.S., but we are working on it, so hopefully down the road we’ll be able to ship internationally.

And we also are working on a new app and some new products that may be right up your alley, Paul.

And then you also mentioned that you’re looking to lose 40 pounds as fast as possible.

So a few years back when I was working with Kurt Morgan on the ABC TV show to help him lose 87 pounds in just 14 weeks.

I set up a few different tips just to get him started really quickly and to kind of accelerate the fat loss results that you can do from a dietary standpoint and a movement standpoint, but mostly dietary. And that Rapid Fat Loss Program is all outlined for free in this blog post.

We’ve kind of used elements of these different tips over the years to not only help people like Kurt who started at 352 pounds, lose almost 100 pounds, about 7 pounds a week for months on end, but also people like my friend Chaz who we helped coach down to 3.5% body fat. And obviously he did most of the work there.

You might not be aware that we’ve been running the Fat-Burning Man blog and podcast website for about 10 years now, so there is a wealth of information.

You can just go in the search bar at the top-right of the website, look for different tips and recipes. And if you want my Rapid Fat Loss Tips, you can find that right here.

So thank you, Paul, for getting in touch. I always appreciate your questions and hearing from you.

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